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Sudden Loss of Power Brake Assist
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Tim Mabry
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56 Exec. has loss of power brake assist about once in every 200 or so applications. Anything to look for? The BTV was rebuilt about two years ago and everything seems fine except for this rather scary problem.

Posted on: 2012/5/8 10:32
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Re: Sudden Loss of Power Brake Assist
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Craig Hendrickson
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lostcause Quote:
...The BTV was rebuilt about two years ago and everything seems fine except for this rather scary problem.


"scary" is an understatement! I personally had 4 different, professionally rebuilt BTVs fail over several years -- one was complete failure, i.e., not just no power assist, but no brakes, period.

My solution was to replace the BTV with a modern dual master booster. Several others on this website have done exactly the same or adapted another type modern booster to the firewall. See for details on what I did:

1956packardpanther.com/Panther/powerbrakes.html

In the 9 years I have had this setup installed, it has been 100% reliable.

Craig

Posted on: 2012/5/8 10:41
Nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure! Ellen Ripley "Aliens"
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Re: Sudden Loss of Power Brake Assist
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Owen_Dyneto
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Perhaps a sticking vacuum check valve. Follow the hose from the booster up to the intake manifold and you'll find the valve. Pretty simple little thing, often can be fixed by just cleaning, sometimes replacing the spring or ball.

EDIT: You said the power assist failed, not the brakes. Thus my guess on the vacuum check valve. If you can't repair it or find an NOS one if needed, they are still used on cars today so you could adapt a modern functional equivalent easily.

Posted on: 2012/5/8 10:45
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Re: Sudden Loss of Power Brake Assist
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If just assist and not entire brakes, one easy place to get to and look is the check valve at the back of carb. If it has a bit of rust or somehow stays open, sometimes the vacuum available in reserve is not sufficient for an application.

If you are losing entire brakes, another matter entirely and a different issue. Other than a bit of cleaning and lube for the piston leather, I don't think rebuilders spend a lot of time (if any) on the vacuum section when doing a rebuild. If the check valve cleaning doesn't help, you would need to have that vacuum portion looked at by someone known to do good work.

Posted on: 2012/5/8 10:50
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Re: Sudden Loss of Power Brake Assist
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Ozstatman
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G'day Tim,
to PackardInfo and good luck in solving the brake problem with the '56 Executive. Was going to ask you to include the Exec in the Packard Owner's Registry when I noticed your signature line of "EIGHT IN A ROW, THE ONLY WAY TO GO!!!". So, besides the Exec, could you also include your '39 120 4 Door Sedan?

Posted on: 2012/5/10 15:26
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry!
Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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