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This car, currently on ebay, is advertised to be a 160. I have my doubts that it came out of the factory as a 160. Am I correct?
ebay.com/itm/151514616524?_trksid=p20607 ... l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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I believe you are correct. First clue, check the front vent windows. They are not operated by a window crank. Still, a most attractive Packard, but the seller is either mistaken or committing fraud.

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Perhaps more telling is the misspelling of Stamford on the patent plate.

I'd sure like to see the original patent plate.

The engine number would also be of interest.

The engine looks like a 356, and most people faking these usually install a 356 engine. As mentioned, the one thing that is rarely, if not always omitted is the correct vent window operation.

While I'm not against putting a replica serial number plate on a restored car (I would never do it), I would be VERY suspect of a car's authenticity if the original were not provided with the car. How hard is it to throw it in the glove box, just in case someone questions you. A car that is well-known for fakes, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot by not providing as much original info as possible.

The engine is definitely a 356, I just wonder if it belongs to a 1940 160.

Oh. I see.
Incorrect rear bumper, also. Cars with luggage racks had plain bumpers.
Vinyl upholstery??? Rattle can chassis restoration??? Interior door hardware looks like Junior hardware to me, also.

At the risk of being overly critical and in addition to what's been noted, I'd expect more from a "fresh restoration"; you'd think they would have painted the water pump. Also minimal care in dressing the engine and components; incorrect type hose clamps and ignition cable ends an generally not "fresh". Wrong screws attaching the patent plate (should be slotted, not Phillips). I'm not that familiar with 1940 but seeing an oiled mesh air filter rather than an oil bath seems strange. Also converted to 12-volt for better starting just indicates to me someone not willing to correct whatever the underlying problems were before conversion.

I'm perhaps being too picky.

I think one has to be critical when a seller implies he is a 1940 Packard expert. I sure wouldn't want to imply that when marketing this car as having a fresh restoration and being "one of the nicest".

The air cleaner is correct. The oil bath was an option.