Re: 1934 1101 engine missing
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G'day Dan(626guy),
to PackardInfo! But I'll leave it to the experts to advise you in regard to your problems. Instead I invite you to include your '34 1101 in the Packard Owner's Registry alongside your '29 Standard Eight Sedan already in residence there.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 1:33
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Re: 1934 1101 engine missing
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The weak spark to #3 spark plug only is puzzling. I recommend to start by checking the #3 distributor cap terminal very carefully to make sure there is no conductivity problem there. If that appears to be OK I'd swap the #3 spark plug wire with another wire; if the problem remains at #3 then you'll know for sure that the wire is good. Try swapping the spark plug; if the problem remains then the plug is good. I'm not familiar with the modified points installed but if it still uses dual coils I recommend swapping the coils around. If the problem remains at #3 try swapping the condensers. If there's no change then it doesn't appear to be an ignition component problem and more extensive engine diagnostics are called for.
Grounding the distributor is certainly a good idea, but as you point out if the lack of a ground is the problem then weak sparking should be occurring at more than one cylinder. It would be good to check the vacuum but I'm not sure this condition is consistent with a vacuum leak. A vacuum leak could not cause a weak spark. I hope you can get to the bottom of this problem quickly and it can be repaired easily.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 1:42
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JUST ONE MANS OPINION
being just #3 i would 1st - when the suns gone down pull the DistCap cover and c if u have any fireworks going on 2nd - swap #3 wire with #6 3rd - swap #3 plug with another 4th - ck the inside of the Cap for carbon tracking and/or corrosion on term #3 BTW - Its an Eight. NOT a Standard Eight. Believe PACKARD stopped ref to the smaller eights as Standard in '32. Im sure if im wrong with '32 someone will correct me.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 7:50
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Assuming the conclusion that it's just a weak spark to #3, I agree with Packardbarry and Don, it's most likely between the spark plug and the rotor, most likely the distributor cap, and you can ignore the points, condenser and coil as suspects.
But I really wonder about that conclusion when I read that you say it wouldn't stay running and bogged down when trying to accelerate - those are not symptoms I'd expect from simply a weak spark to 1 cylinder -heck, even a car with a completely dead cylinder will idle adequately though a bit roughly and accelerate nearly normally. Even with one dead coil those cars will idle smoothly and accelerate (though with little power) on just 4 cylinders. So I suspect the main problem lies elsewhere, not to exclude that you might also have a distributor cap or wire problem. First thing that comes to mind is a large vacuum leak; there is an available plug for testing vacuum in the fitting adjacent to the Bijur jar; connect a vacuum gauge - you should expect 18-20 inches of vacuum at idle. If the vacuum is lower than 17 or so inches, check all the usual places like the intake manifold gaskets, the Stromberg automatic choke gasket, carburetor base gasket, main vacuum take-off line gasket on the intake manifold, vacuum booster section of the fuel pump, and the metal and rubber lines associated with the wipers, Bijur and power brake control valve.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 9:55
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AND the Intake Manifold Dump CHECK VALVE
Finger over the end at idle will tell u if its closing.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 11:37
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Thanks gentlemen for all of the great suggestions so quickly! I will begin following your instructions and see where it leads me. Owens suggestion about the vacuum brought to mind another point. When I advance the accelerator quickly I occasionally get blowback or popping sound through the carb. Would that be suggestive of a vacuum leak? Your right in that the car idles, starts and runs rough. It is the poor accleration and the fact that it occasionally wants to die that makes me wonder if its more than just poor fire to one cylinder. Further, it smells very rich when running. I assumed again that one cylinder intermittently not firing could be the cause of the rich smell but could a vacuum leak do the same? Regardless, Ill check for a vacuum issue as well as run through the distributor and coil suggestions. Thanks again for the help.
Posted on: 2015/8/4 11:42
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I will definitely include it in the registry if I can ever get my head out from under the hood! Its on my list. Thanks!
Posted on: 2015/8/4 11:43
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"I will definitely include it in the registry if I can ever get my head out from under the hood"
Dan, Ministrations to your ailing Packard to return it to full health of course take precedence!
Posted on: 2015/8/5 6:13
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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You may have more than one thing causing your miss and running problems. A compression check will verify condition of cylinders.
(o{}o)
Posted on: 2015/8/5 9:01
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