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No Problem - Dad's PA title listed an original title date of 1-6-56 and MFR'S. NO. 56821270 Does that mean it was made sometime in 1955?
Posted on: 2023/9/26 9:49
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What are the odds? Cool - Good to know - Thanks!
Posted on: 2023/9/26 9:50
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Cool thanks! Advice appreciated on all counts. About the parking pawl - that's funny. Just goes to show how my brain is stuck in manual transmission mode... Now I just have to hurry up to get her listed and wait... Again - I greatly appreciate all the help on this thread!
Posted on: 2023/9/26 9:58
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Gotta ask... a "1952 Lincoln hydrostatic transmission"????? Do you mean a Hydramatic transmission????? The issue here is not a parking pawl nor is it your pushbuttons (which are likely now a Frankenstein customized nightmare if they work at all). A jerry-rigged transmission out of a completely different car is the problem combined with jerry-rigged pushbuttons. Heaven only knows what is really going on here, but absolutely frightening! One would need to sort out and un-do what has been done to this Patrician to even have a prayer of getting it back on the road. Any rise in value for having factory air is certainly completely cancelled by this wild transmission modification. Guaranteed trouble. Guaranteed. • As far as spark plugs being accessible, all you need is a spark plug socket, and extension and a ratchet wrench. • There is no guarantee that the A/C compressor is frozen up. And unless it shows clear signs of the compressor clutch being somehow locked up, simply disconnect the electrical connector to the compressor. Easy. • Be sure to turn the air cleaner around facing forward (presently mounted backward) before attempting to start.
Posted on: 2023/9/26 20:40
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Leeedy now that you mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if transmission gremlins were what was keeping Dad from pulling it out of the garage eventually.
Carl, can you post some more pictures of under the hood when you get a chance? Would like to see how the
Posted on: 2023/9/27 8:01
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I am confused. OP sez Lincoln, but then Hydramatic (which is GM) comes up. Now I'm seeing "mopar". Someone needs to crawl under the car and verify what's actually in there.
Switching pushbutton positions and related wiring is not impossible with OE Twin Ultramatic, but adapting it to the other brands would require a lot more work. Meanwhile, shouldn't take more than a few minutes to pull plugs, squirt a good amount of ATF in each cylinder, then let it soak and see if it'll turn over. A good spark plug socket will have a hex on the drive end for a wrench (typcially to get behind generator.)
Posted on: 2023/9/27 10:01
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For what it's worth and I think there may be some errors, Wikipedia says because Lincoln had no automatic of their own after the short lived prewar LiquiMatic, starting in 49 they chose to buy the GM Hydramatic for use in Lincoln Cosmopolitans. Hydramatic use lasted until 55 when Lincoln finally had their own full automatic trans called the TurboDrive. That trans was apparently similar to the already being used Borg Warner designed Ford O Matic and sister Merc O Matc which begs the quesiton why they didn't use that trans earlier.
I also did not see a mention of what Lincoln used in 53 when Hydramatic production was shut down because of a massive fire in the Hydramatic factory. Chevy had the Powerglide but more upscale GM models used the Dynaflow during the time Hydramatics were unavailable. No mention if Lincoln also used the Dynaflow or if they had a supply of Hydramatis on hand or if they went to the Ford or Merc version of the B-W trans the sister cars were already using. Another surprising statement said that before buying the Hydramatic Lincoln first tried to buy the Ultramatic for use in the big Lincoln Cosmo models but was turned down because Packard could not supply enough to meet expected demand. If it actually happened, I suspect more than supply availability, it might have also had something to do with wanting the Ultra to stay exclusive for a year or two.
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I have never heard this before, and as desperately as Nance was scrambling about for revenue streams, I'm inclined to doubt this tidbit. I think he would have happily pimped out his transmissions.
Posted on: 2023/9/27 18:58
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1949 would be pre-Nance.
Posted on: 2023/9/27 19:28
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