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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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The ZIS grille looks like a cross breeding between the Chrysler grill and a 35 Cadillac grille.

Edit: here's a picture of my 35 Cadillac; just can't get the picture turned....Mal....help!

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Posted on: 2015/1/21 17:15
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Bad company corrupts good character!

Farming: the art of losing money while working 100 hours a week to feed people who think you are trying to kill them
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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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You rang?

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Posted on: 2015/1/21 21:55
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"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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Mal is good at spinning pictures around because he lives in the Southern Hemisphere


I think a better fit is a 1936 DeSoto


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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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Thanks Mal!

I can never figure out when it's night in Australia cause I see Mal here at every hour of the day or night. Maybe he never sleeps?

Posted on: 2015/1/21 23:24
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Bad company corrupts good character!

Farming: the art of losing money while working 100 hours a week to feed people who think you are trying to kill them
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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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"Mal is good at spinning pictures around because he lives in the Southern Hemisphere"

Hmmm, maybe it has something to do with the bathwater going down the plughole in the opposite direction?

Posted on: 2015/1/21 23:45
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
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Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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BDC, John, thanks. After 1935 Cadillac 75 (?), 1935 Chrysler and 1936 DeSoto I extend the range with another radiator mask of an unknown car, obviously pictured in UK in 1936. Click to see original Image in a new window
Dave's (O_D) reference car offered more than just a similar grille. Especially the fenders including decorative strips are quite convincing arguments.
Budd delivered not only presses but even the molds. This leads to the question, which brand received finished fenders from Budd in the mid-thirties?

Posted on: 2015/1/22 15:04
The story of ZIS-110, ZIS-115, ZIL-111 & Chaika GAZ-13 on www.guscha.de
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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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Guscha, the Cadillac is a series 20,body by Fisher.

Posted on: 2015/1/22 16:43
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Bad company corrupts good character!

Farming: the art of losing money while working 100 hours a week to feed people who think you are trying to kill them
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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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Hi Guscha

The UK Chrysler product pictured is a 1935 Chrysler Wimbledon, which is essentially an American Plymouth built for the British market. Chrysler did considerable business with Budd as did many other carmakers for tooling, dies and stampings. Budd also had an operation in Germany named Ambi-Budd.

Budd never got into complete automobile manufacture, was a heavy dies and stamping industry supplier working closely with manufacturers. The car that became the fwd Ruxton was engineered and built on speculation by Budd with the idea that a manufacturer could then be found to do so, contracting with Budd for all major components, of course. Then, along came a squirrel named Archie Andrews.......!

Okay, UK participants, what is the diminutive car also pictured with the Chrysler Wimbledon?

Steve

Posted on: 2015/1/23 8:46
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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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BDC, Steve, thanks.

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...Budd also had an operation in Germany named Ambi-Budd...

Yes, in Berlin-Johannisthal and just like in your country, Budd ruled the marked of all-metall bodies in the twenties. But then the company has been drawn into the war, built VW Schwimmwagen and Focke Wulf and was bombed out.

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...Chrysler did considerable business with Budd as did many other carmakers for tooling, dies and stampings...

Yes, in Berlin both companies were even immediate neighbors. Additional Budd hold shares in a couple of German car makers like Adler.

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...Budd never got into complete automobile manufacture...

Steve, you know what they say. There is an exception to every rule.

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...The UK Chrysler product pictured is a 1935 Chrysler Wimbledon...

I will be back to that point. Again thanks.

Posted on: 2015/1/24 6:53
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Re: North Korean Packard or on of those Russians?
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Hi Guscha

Always exceptions, in the case of the XR-400, "manufacture", of sorts..... Those one-off, speculation idea/dream/show cars pop up from various industry suppliers from time to time in hopes of drumming up more business. Budd was somewhat on the right track in the 1962-'63 timeframe: a sporty car of long hood/short deck proportions built on a mass-production compact car chassis....sound familiar?

But, somehow, an AMC 'Mustang' wasn't in the cards, though interesting to consider what might-have-been (with better styling!). Concurrent with this project, Abernethy had taken the AMC helm, quickly set about changing the direction from the dull, stolid 'Romney Ramblers' to a rather stretched thin, full-line competitor versus the Big Three. The upshot was diminishing their economy car reputation without fully being accepted as an equal to the Big Three, followed by decades of struggle to survive.

Steve

Posted on: 2015/1/24 8:53
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Proud 1953 Clipper Deluxe owner. Thinking about my next Packard, want a Clipper Deluxe Eight, manual shift with overdrive.
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