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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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Are you sure it's actually overheating and it's just not gauge/sensor?

If the gauge was all the way over, I would expect it to be puking coolant. You can get one of those IR thermos from HF pretty cheaply and check the temp at the front and rear of the head. If it significantly hotter at the rear, that would point to a clogged distro tube.

Posted on: 2018/9/5 11:41
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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Great suggestion!

Posted on: 2018/9/5 12:00
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I have the gun, and was going to do precisely that, but the darn battery is dead again. Gotta wait till it charges. Again.

Posted on: 2018/9/5 12:26
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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I am thinking at some point the car had an oil filter and it was removed. The pigtail supplying the lifter gallery is on the right side of the sender and I would almost expect there to be a 4 port fitting behind the sender. If so perhaps when removing the filter they did not have a way to plug the 4th port so just bent and crimped or maybe soldered closed a short stub of tubing as a way to provide something to fill the port. Perhaps a remnant of tubing is what you are seeing under the sender.

With the pigtail feeding the lifter gallery, if it did have a filter it would have drained into the crankcase as if the engine had hydraulic lifters. Those could have been optioned and the motor number may indicate the option. You might also check to see if there are any signs of disturbance around the area where I believe the filter return port is placed on that engine -- perhaps another piece of closed tubing or an unpainted plug in the area circled in the second photo that was borrowed from Big Kev's blog.

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Posted on: 2018/9/5 12:34
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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re; gas pedal. Take it off and look for indication of origin.
If none, post picture for ID/compare to OEM. I don't remember any big rubber ones just those "barefoot" chrome ones from the 60-70s. But who knows what POs did to personalize their cars. Mine came with fuzzy dice. Could've have some sort of disability, large shoe size, or preference. This is well before advent of electrically adjustable gas pedals.
I don't recall seeing any optional foot pedals in the parts list. But you can look there as well.

ps: I know of documented studies(sae) of engine wear that apportion ~80% of engine wear to start up friction before oil flow but none for Packard engines.

Posted on: 2018/9/5 14:12
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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Welcome! Glad to see another Packard has found an appreciative owner. You've already discovered what a wealth of knowledge and help is available here. The search function and project blogs can provide immediate answers too as many have grappled with the same problems.

Please start a project blog in that section, it makes it easier to post your questions and find the answers later. Its also useful to show your progress which we all like to see.

If you haven't yet, buy a copy of Packard 1948-1950 by Robert J. Neal which is available through the Packard Club website. Its an in-depth history on your series, absolutely worthwhile reading and a great reference.

I'd also suggest you join the Packard Club (PAC) and the region in your area. It will open up great access to fellow Packard enthusiasts and a group of really nice people.

Again welcome, please keep us apprised of your progress with your new '49 club sedan.

Steve

Posted on: 2018/9/5 14:20
.....epigram time.....
Proud 1953 Clipper Deluxe owner. Thinking about my next Packard, want a Clipper Deluxe Eight, manual shift with overdrive.
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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Not sure what is considered big but compared to todays pedals I guess the 50 pedal could be considered large. The pedals were pretty much the same from at least 40-52 -- a black rubber ribbed affair roughly 2" wide by 9" tall. 53 on saw them emboss the Packard crest at the top 2" or so of the pedal instead of ribs. Kanter has repros of the all ribbed pedals.

There was an accessory cover with a built in heel cushion which made the pedal appear somewhat bigger. Believe that came along in 51 but maybe available earlier. At any rate, even if bought later it could have been installed on an earlier model.

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Posted on: 2018/9/5 14:39
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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for including your '49 Eight Club Sedan in the Packard Owner's Registry.

But.....I have a suspicion that, from the Vehicle Number of 2395523246 it could well be a '50! Reason being, if your number is actually 2395-5-23246 it's definitely a '50. Same thing happened to me, bought as a '49 but VN was 2392-5-42982 with car being sold late '49 and titled as a '49.

Posted on: 2018/9/5 15:19
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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Ross,

That is a good input on the cranking of engine without oil to the rings. What do you think of the pre-lube systems that don't require the engine to crank over and bring up oil pressure before ignition?

Here is one example

http://www.masterlube.net/

Posted on: 2018/9/5 20:52
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Re: Proud New Owner of a 49 Packard Club Sedan
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You ARE the GURU! its the optional pedal pad. Note-this thing is huge and if your brake pedal play is too great, stepping on the brake will also accelerate the car when your foot also hits the gas pedal. A heart stopping moment.

Posted on: 2018/9/6 6:38
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