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Re: getting the horn button off
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Packard Don
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Yes, the foam came later. My 1940 has a spring.

Posted on: 2023/7/7 23:06
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Re: getting the horn button off
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That makes sense and thanks for answering my mystery for me.
Mine is a 37 and has a spring, but that is not to say someone may have added the foam in later years as an 'improvement'. No cross-linked polyethylene foam technology back then for sure!
When you figure the only plastics in the car were all phenolics based on vegetable oils (rotor, distributor cap, steering wheel etc.) it is not surprising that the foam would return to its elemental form over the decades.
Thanks again,
Bob J.

Posted on: 2023/7/9 8:44
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Re: getting the horn button off
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Sue L.
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creative! but doable, I shall keep this in mind. Thank you.

Posted on: 2023/7/9 14:11
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Re: getting the horn button off
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Thank you, I like your suggestions and will try them first. Thanks for the visual too.

Posted on: 2023/7/9 14:15
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Re: getting the horn button off
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I have my wire shorted in the steering tube. What is the best way to get the wire out of the tube? It is stuck near the middle.

Thanks

Posted on: 2023/7/12 18:34
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Re: getting the horn button off
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It normally pulls out from the top. Make sure it's not hanging up at the bottom where it enters the steering box.

Posted on: 2023/7/12 18:40
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Re: getting the horn button off
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And if the wire had insulation falling off right near the box which is a fairly common issue due to heat and grease, someone might have tried to tape the damaged area. Make sure there is no bulky tape around the wire or a terminal that is very large. Not sure about early models but if your steering box is the same as most Packard used mid 30s onward, the wire needs to pass thru a tube or conduit not much larger in ID than the wire diameter before it reaches the steering shaft.

It would also be a good idea to tie a length of strong but thin string on the end of the wire before you pull it thru. Having the string in place will make pulling a new wire down and help the end to enter the small tube much easier. Several have reported dental floss works well for this.

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Posted on: 2023/7/12 19:02
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Re: getting the horn button off
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Howard is absolutely right. Pull the whole aged wire out and replace it with a new 10 AWG one. Cut the connector off at the bottom of the old wire so it pulls smoothly up out of the steering tube. Use the old one for a pattern to cut the new wire length and solder it to the horn button.
I used a fine mechanics wire to act as a fish line to pull it down the tube, (note that it is spiralled below the horn button to ease strain while turning). Attach a new connector at the bottom after threading to complete the circuit.
The action of steering alone let alone the hostile environment at the base of the steering box in the engine compartment and open to harsh conditions off the road while driving over the decades takes its toll.
Have fun!
Bob J.

Posted on: 2023/7/12 21:07
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Re: getting the horn button off
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Gar
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Howard/Bob:

That worked like a dream. I used a stiff steel rod to clear out the old wire/insulation/muck. Pulled a new wire thru. (The picture definitively helped)

Thanks for the guidance. Now I have a working horn again!

BZ,
Gar

Posted on: 2023/7/13 17:22
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Re: getting the horn button off
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Fantastic, I am so happy for you. So nice to have a project go so well.
Beep Beep!
Bob J.

Posted on: 2023/7/13 20:12
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