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... I hope I didn't sound flippant or disrespectful of 'those folks and that era' in my post, as it was most certainly not my intent. Apologies if I offended ... Chris (Packard newbie), I'm anything but sure if I read every of your so far 542 comments at PackardInfo but what I know for certain is that you express yourself in a refined manner, always polite and courteous. After looking at the wooden shacks it is conclusively justified to ask for a certain kind of standard. According to Trout, Steven (2006). Cather Studies Vol. 6: History, Memory, and War. University of Nebraska Press. pp. 275-276. ISBN 978-0-8032-9464-6 the first rough cast of the Liberty engine was made within 5 days. The talk revolves around an engine, which had been no less than one of the very first attempts at creating a modular engine that could be easily mass-produced by several different manufacturing companies in large quantity, ranging from four- to twelve-cylinder configuration and included design elements such as OHC and light metal pistons. In a departure from todays' convention the government wasn't ordering a couple of dozen power plants to be delivered in a decade. All in all the production comprised more than 6,000 engines, based on the ->data compiled by Robert Neal. Take a closer look, please, at pic #3 and #4 below. There the next row of testing sheds is to be seen in the background. source: U.S. National Archives; -> Public Domain Archive Copyright info: no known copyright restrictions Click to enlarge! Attach file:  (50.12 KB) (130.83 KB) (74.86 KB) (108.77 KB)
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Looking up Liberty engines on Wikipedia will tell you more than you ever wanted to know.. Cannot verify the content. Although, isn't Wiki renowned for its accuracy?   And, a couple of years ago, visited a small car collection in a little country town, it contained a Liberty powered MAB "speedster", and a Rolls-Royce Meteor engine. One of the Libertys valve covers came from "Babs"! Attach file: (96.64 KB) (81.26 KB) (70.66 KB) (86.88 KB) (68.36 KB) (83.04 KB) (51.13 KB) (89.55 KB)
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Instead of this rather bland statement: "Looking up Liberty engines on Wikipedia will tell you more than you ever wanted to know.. Cannot verify the content. Although, isn't Wiki renowned for its accuracy?
" I wanted to post a document but was having trouble doing so. However its now sorted out and attached. But the comment "Although, isn't Wiki renowned for its accuracy?" should still be kept in mind.Attach file:  Size: 178.38 KB; Hits: 106
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Mal, Wikipedia about Wikipedia: "Wikipedia has been criticized for exhibiting systemic bias, for presenting a mixture of "truths, half truths, and some falsehoods"
 White Triplex land speed record car, showing the three engines, source: Wikipedia According to Stuart D. Brandes, author of Warhogs: A History of War Profits in America, University Press of Kentucky, 2015, ISBN 0813157609, 9780813157603, 384 pages, the government paid for the facilities for the production of the Liberty motor. (scroll down to page 161 / 162). Pic #5 below shows the manual ignition advance and hand throttle. source: U.S. National Archives; -> Public Domain Archive Copyright info: no known copyright restrictions Click to enlarge! Attach file: (71.78 KB) (152.05 KB) (63.72 KB) (115.96 KB) (127.77 KB) (70.15 KB)
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I wonder if those women were paid the same as the men. Quote: Also Tim, in response to your remark on women working in these places, my Mom had a job at a munitions factory up here in Canada when she was a very young girl. She said it was both dangerous and, as you said had deplorable working conditions. She recounted coworkers getting digits and even hands blown off by accidents but she said the pay was three times what she could make as a serger, cook, or any of the other 'jobs of the day' so women were willing to take the risk. Lucky for her, she emerged with all here fingers, but as a result of excessive noise, had severe hearing loss at a very young age. [Chris (Packard newbie); posted on: 10/21] source: U.S. National Archives; -> Public Domain Archive Copyright info: no known copyright restrictions Click to enlarge! Attach file: (48.19 KB) (87.50 KB)
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source: U.S. National Archives; -> Public Domain Archive
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Agreed. I sometimes forget that when looking at the above pictures, for the most part, we're seeing the "state of the art.... then"....
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The past is like a foreign country, they do things differently there. Or, something like that.
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Yes, JW, that is the quote that came to mind to me also! Fishin'Jim says he has 'real difficulty with people looking at the past using today's standards'; I get that, but, at the end of the day, what else do we have to look at the past? That's part of the whole vintage car world - looking at yesteryear with 'today's eyes' and having appreciation for and, sometimes, criticism and questions about, how things were done. It's like a machinist or engineer looking at some of the things that get posted on P.I., and having a broader, more educated overview and posting their thoughts. I always welcome instructive and correcting points of view from those who either know more or have 'done it before'. Perception is reality and for better or for worse, our take on things is borne of the experiences of our time. I think that's how we move forward and improve the state of the art of anything. BTW, was it just me, or did anyone else think those ladies looked like they were all on their Iphones?!!?! LOL Chris
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