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fender mounted rear view mirrors
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I am trying to find the right placement of rear view mirrors on my 55 clipper. I know there was a template used for this. If someone could just give the measurements from the hood fender seam to the screw heads and from the front fender door joint to screw head, this may help.
Gracious

Posted on: 2009/9/18 13:48
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Yes, I have the dealer installation kit template with both locations marked, door and front fender. I'll dig it out in the next few days and give you the dimensions, or if not too large I'll scan and post. Hold tight, or perhaps someone who moves faster than I will do it first.

Posted on: 2009/9/18 14:04
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If there a anything in the 55/56 Accessories section of the service manual that covers this?

Posted on: 2009/9/19 2:04
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Owen,
Thanks for the comeback. I would greatly appreciate it. I have noticed that there is a diffence between the senior and junior mirrors. While they appear the same at a quick glace, the seniors are a little fancier in the shroud that surrounds the mirror. I have checked this out on cars with the original mirrors and it seems the case.

Posted on: 2009/9/19 10:06
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There is NO difference, Junior vs. Senior, for the factory-issued, dealer-installed outside rearview mirror for 1955-56 Packards (and Clippers); there was only style. Any other mirror design is not genuine Packard; most of those other mirrors that you see on these cars originated in the afermarket.

I prefer the elgeant simplcity of the factory-issue mirror, though they are difficult to come by. While there have been reproductions of that original mirror, they are expensive, but not always identical in form and function. Shop carefully!

As packaged for sale through the dealer network, the original mirror included a body-specific (Junior vs. Senior, 1955 vs. 1956) drilling template with installation notes. That is likely what Owen has, but it may be of some help in placing other mirrors.

IMHO, the front fender mounting location looks best with with dual mirrors and dual rear antennas. Otherwise, the left front fender looks rather cluttered with both the antenna and a mirror. However, I seem to recall that others here have noted that the view of the mirror as mounted on the door in factory location is obstructed by the front window run channel; you may need a helper to tweak exact placement to suit your needs (as the driver).

Below is an image of an NOS mirror, in profile, and detail of the stem. I believe the basic mirror design was used from 1951-1956, but the stem detail changed for 1955-56 to permit mounting on front fenders, as well as below the beltline on front doors. Be aware of that detail on reproduction mirrors, as I got burned by a vendor, but only once.

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Posted on: 2009/9/19 10:27
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I am still looking for the correct placement of the outside rear view mirrors. Anyone have an answer?

Posted on: 2010/2/7 12:44
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Brian,

I am pretty certain that a mirror was available for '55 Seniors that was special. It had the Packard Crest centered on the front side, and a wide chrome ring around the mirror itself.

I may have a picture of this, but I'd really have to dig through old stuff.

Anyone else seen one of these babies? It was really neat.

Posted on: 2010/2/7 13:13
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Would be interesting to see. I don't remember ever seeing one and it doesn't show in 55 or 56 accessory catalog so maybe something very special for a promotion or maybe aftermarket??

As to the posters original question, surely someone has a mirror template. I thought we were going to have a template file but didn't find one so named in obvious places. Remember seeing several antenna templates showing in the recent photos section a few weeks ago but not sure where they went.

Posted on: 2010/2/7 13:51
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Just to repeat again from post #2 above, yes I have the template that provides both door and fender positions. The template comes with the accessory mirror kit, and if you buy the mirror from Jay Fisher, he also includes a copy of it with his mirror.

The template is too large for the ordinary photocopier bed but I suppose I could get a copy made from a place that specializes in oversize reproductions. PM if you want to discuss.

Posted on: 2010/2/7 14:11
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Just wondered if not rolled or too delicate if possible to copy in quarters or more and post files that could be printed and taped together--maybe some dimensions could accompany in case print was not actual size.

Posted on: 2010/2/7 14:24
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