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I restored the horns for Duchess, but now I can't figure where they attached on the engine without bumping in to the heater hose ins and outs or overdrive relay or air cleaner bracket or ignition coil. If you have a 356 1940 - 1950, but especially 1940, I'd like to see which head nuts are near or are used to attach the coil, the oil bath air cleaner bracket, and especially horn...esp if you have a heater. Thanks for help.

48-50 356 cars (Custom 8) had the horns up front on the radiator cradle so they won't be of any use to you. Not sure about 1940 but there are several 41 seniors in the neighborhood so if you don't get the info you need, I can always go look at one for you, though I don't know that 1940 was the same.

My '41 180 has a triple horn unit that I believe is attached to the firewall on the passenger side. I'll get a photo later today and add it to this post.

Edit: Here's a couple of photos of the horn mounting for a '41 180. Hopefully the '40 is similar. I also tossed in a not very good photo of the over-engine oil bath bracket ('48 356).

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Two folks I can think of with 1940 seniors to call who I think would be willing to take the time to go take a look and advise.

Al Pressman of Cherry Hill, NJ
Marshall Katz of Camp Hill, PA

Contact info in your PAC membership directly. Al Pressman is a regular visitor to the PAC forums, so alternatively you might post your question there for him.

Pic below is of a '40 Super 8 Henney 7 seater I saw in Idaho in 2007. Reluctant to post pic until I saw JD's post about being firewall mounted, not a great pic but may help.

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This is all very helpful. There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat. The attached B&W image is the closest to the items for my car. The former owner is forwarding my request to the new owner.

The red one, a Hyman Ltd restoration
http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/photogallery5/1940-packard-160-rear.cfm

I just couldn't get things to fit. But all this helps. I have a list of 1377 owners here at the office and will contact the handful I have emails for as well.

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This issue has been resolved. I have a little more fiddling to do and then will take pictures and give some specifics on what worked for me.

Two things I didn't understand is that (1) the permanent coil bracket attaches to a head stud, not to the side of the head on the air cleaner bracket and (2) the ignition conduit goes under or "through" big hole in the horn bracket, not to the left of the horns as I assumed.

Thanks OD, JD and Ozstatman. Dave Charvet and Dave McCready, too.

Joe

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I believe this is incorrect. There are three brackets that attach to that side stud: the coil bracket and the air cleaner bracket and spark plug wire cover bracket. My car is still in storage, but when I get it out, I'll show a picture of how it goes together. Or, if I find a picture that I've already taken, I'll post that.

Found one:
The coil bracket is closest to the cylinder head, and actually slightly wraps around to the top of the cylinder head. Next is the air cleaner bracket and on top is the sparkplug wire cover bracket.

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OK, that would be great, West. I suspect it's like Jim (AZ)'s unrestored 1803 1377. The top photo attached. The coil is attached to the hole in the side of the head where the air cleaner bracket goes. That's how I tried to set it up. But couldn't make it work.

Also attached is how it looks after last night...only I'm moving the wire holder and coil back a stud or two to the right in the picture to give the ignition conduit more play so it can go under the horns.

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